Archbishop urged to speak on protesting Priest

Archbishop urged to speak on protesting Priest

The head of the local Catholic Church, Archbishop Robert Rivas, has been called upon to speak out on this week’s participation by a Priest in a protest outside parliament.

Vieux Fort Parish Priest, Kevin Murray, joined persons who were protesting against the multi-million dollar Desert Star Holdings (DSH) project planned for the South of the Island.

Outspoken Attorney at Law, Mary Francis, questioned whether Murray, by his actions, will divide the Catholic flock.

She told the Times that history was made when the ‘white foreign Catholic Priest’ joined the protest.

The Attorney at law declared that she has never seen a local Priest being so outspoken on such an issue.

“This is a first. I guess he is showing us that he is enlightened. The usual thing – they are more enlightened than us in terms of human rights,” she stated.

Francis, who is a Human Rights Activist, asserted that the Priest was exercising his right to freedom of assembly and freedom of expression.

However she wondered whether Murray would face sanctions.

“What does the Catholic Church have to say with regard to this expression by the Shepherd of the Flock?” Francis said.

She said:

“It is a serious issue, because it may very well divide the flock down in Vieux Fort.”

Agreeing that the DSH matter has political overtones, Francis said she would like to hear what the Archbishop has to say on the matter.

She expressed the view that the Archbishop should speak up to indicate what the position of the Catholic Church is on the issue of the Priest exercising his right to freedom of expression, being mindful of the possible effect on the flock.

“I think the local clergy – this is one for them; let me hear what they have to say on the matter,” Francis declared.

 

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37 Comments

  1. Anonymous
    December 22, 2016 at 3:23 pm Reply

    Mary Francis get a life !!!!! You think that was the days when Father John spoke out about the John Compton Administration and the Bishop had put him away for life !!!
    Mary Francis you are so confuse, please try opening a lawyer firm but I guess you will never get a customer.
    What have you done in the last 6 months to get justice for the ORC victims ???? You must remember these victims problems came under the UWP administration, since you want to show your political colours it is now time to paint you YELLOW !!!!!

  2. Anonymous
    December 22, 2016 at 3:33 pm Reply

    Mary Francis you want to talk about foreign priest ? Can you please tell me who established the St.Mary’s College and St.Joseph Convent ? Can you also tell me who educated the people of St.Lucia from about 1951 to 1970 ? Can you also tell me people like George Odlum, Sir Derick Wallcot, Governor General Louisy, Sara Flood and many others what schools did they attend ?
    Stop your crying and be real, these foreign priest have always played their part in all aspects of Lucian life.

    1. M
      December 22, 2016 at 4:56 pm Reply

      So is she wrong? Have local priests ever been so outspoken on such an issue? That is what she is saying that the white priests always seem to lead the way for us but the local priests don’t publicly stand with the flock when they have an issue.

      1. Anon1
        December 23, 2016 at 9:18 am Reply

        Yes, she’s bloody wrong!

  3. Anonymous
    December 22, 2016 at 3:38 pm Reply

    Mary seems to be insinuating and asking in very subtle visiers terms that the archbishop should somehow muzzle the priest because it may divide the flock. I never thought I’d see the day.

  4. Anvaitay
    December 22, 2016 at 3:41 pm Reply

    Mary Francis you have nothing else to do
    Choops!!!

    1. Something about Mary
      December 23, 2016 at 6:44 am Reply

      Mary has officially become a political crony trying her best to get into the good graces of the UWP Government. To be honest I am disgusted by her recent actions and statements.

  5. Anvaitay
    December 22, 2016 at 3:41 pm Reply

    Mary Francis you have nothing else to do
    Choops!!!

  6. Resident
    December 22, 2016 at 4:40 pm Reply

    I too would like to hear where the Archbishop stands on the priest’s participation in a protest.

    Just recently, we had Fr Clovis in an article on this site expressing support for application of the death penalty in some cases – a major departure from long-standing catholic church doctrine.

    Perhaps it’s a new dispensation under Pope Francis that priests should be allowed to voice their personal opinions on social issues? Maybe that’s a good thing …

  7. M
    December 22, 2016 at 4:53 pm Reply

    This seems like the reporter called and asked Mary Francis questions, not that she just decided to speak about this. Still I applaud her for bringing up the question of human rights because many follow the lead of the church when it comes to views on others’ rights whether it be the right to disagree with authority or speak without permission.

  8. Anonymous
    December 22, 2016 at 5:28 pm Reply

    A priest speaks out off support for his and every one in the one in Fort .are we really benefiting from another hotel scandal they hallways promise to be helping the locals yeh right the only beach left for locals.who getting the benefits.

  9. SMH
    December 22, 2016 at 6:40 pm Reply

    I have to shake my head on this priest. Mary is so right, I never heard of any local priest participate in any political protest. People can say what they want , that protest was political. To make it worst he is selling ti shirts in the prebytery? Hello what our catholic church is becoming to? ? These none local priests are always into some some scandals. One Nigerian priest got a young girl pregnant and after doing so they shift him back to his country quietly, did Murray protest against that? Bishop Rivas must dicipline Murray. Please Murray do not put our catholic church into roro again. Murray you need to go and protest against your country USA for so many blacks cops are killing. Keep your nose out of our affairs in St Lucia because this is not your role, your role is to go and feed and cloth the poor people in Vieux Fort. You have opened a can of worms between you and this government. You need to go back to the US . If you were concern about unemployment you would neverndo this. I have heard priests called politics roro and you partaking in this same roro. You need not to put your self in this. What was going through your mind? You a sick sick priest. I have never seen our local priests does such thing. Murray you allow the devil to carry you away.

    1. bondarmamow
      December 22, 2016 at 7:26 pm Reply

      I think u shud shut up…stop being blind by politics its not about color any more its about us and keeping whats ours. Chastney has his ultra motives. Stop being fooled by that fool. Soon he’ll ship all of u out of st.lucia on slave ships.

  10. Sad-But-True
    December 22, 2016 at 7:17 pm Reply

    No one listens to this old hag anymore. She only wants the corrupt UWP government to give her handouts.
    And I applaud the priest to see through the UWP BS. SLP returns to power 2020 🙂

  11. Sad-But-True
    December 22, 2016 at 7:25 pm Reply

    See? Mary was an opportunist. The SLP never wanted her. So now she notices that a Priest has now stepped up to plead on behalf of the people, she has an issue. And it’s because she knows that the UWP will be out of office soon. Hahahaha 😀

    1. Anonymous
      January 12, 2017 at 7:15 pm Reply

      sad but true what you say of a white man by your logic a white man staging protest in your little country
      you continue calling the PM a white man what do you say sir over to you

  12. Sweetness
    December 22, 2016 at 7:50 pm Reply

    Mary Francis needs a white priest to make her feel good..you know what mean right?

    1. Sad-But-True
      December 23, 2016 at 11:25 am Reply

      Rotflmbao!

  13. Anon
    December 22, 2016 at 7:53 pm Reply

    Mary, SHUT (Words deleted) up and leave Father Murray alone! I didn’t hear you say anything when Chastanet dressed like a Catholic priest at his launching – making a mockery of the Church, didn’t hear you say anything when the pastors were openly campaigning for the UWP on the pulpit, you said nothing when that guy kept degrading women, nothing when Ezechiel was accused of sexually assaulting Janine Compton, so to avoid being insulted by our folks, Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

  14. Anonymous
    December 22, 2016 at 9:41 pm Reply

    Some of these comments are so distasteful and unintelligent. Wonder why some folks choose to spur their nonsense on this blog. It’s just shameful the things some of these bloggers say and how they write it.

  15. SIMEON PULTIE
    December 22, 2016 at 11:18 pm Reply

    HYPOCRITES….Now they want to talk about politics and religion? When they were all over the churches trying to win votes, their own church goers saw no issue with it. Now they want to tell people how to think. There have been so many priests and pastors who have been moved to stand up against things in the past if they view that it affects their flock. The number of priests that have been shot and killed for speaking out. Now you HYPOCRITES want to come and attack him for standing up when you COWARDS are blindly following your “leader” like lambs to the slaughter.

    Fr Kevin Murrary in good time should be given an award on behalf of all the people of Vieux Fort for helping to protect what is theirs. There are people who must stand up and defend those who cannot speak out in defence of themselves. And this is what he’s doing. He does not fear victimisation. He does not fear loss of income. BE NOT AFRAID Fr Murray. I hope you taking a stand inspires others who are living in fear to find their voice and their strength and their will to stand up for what is theirs. This hypocrisy needs to stop. I know he won’t back down because he is on the side of right with this one.

  16. The Crow
    December 23, 2016 at 7:23 am Reply

    Certainly, she is wrong. The fact a local priest has never acted I such a manner doesn’t mean he acted inappropriately. Can Mary or you identify the law that has been broken by this priest? Dividing the Catholic flock my foot!

    Is she saying that the “flock” in Vieux-Fort is not divided? Isn’t that the role of politics . . This one supports this person or that person? This issue is not just a political one it is also a moral one and the priest has the right to act morally.

    Mary is very subtle in her pronouncement. She is suggesting that local priests have never acted as this priest but in the same vain she is talking about “dividing the flock”. The fact that he is dividing the flock seems to suggest that this priest should not have acted and therefore the Arch Bishop should take appropriate actions. Go back with that Mary!

  17. Paula
    December 23, 2016 at 8:23 am Reply

    It is not a matter of whether the priest’s action was unprecendented but rather that he exercised his rights. We should see more of that in St. lucia. Only then will we effect change. As for dividing the congregation; only pure ignorance can cause that. We are too politically bent in this country. It is high time that this syops. If the supporters don’t want to attend church who cares.

  18. Anonymous
    December 23, 2016 at 9:02 am Reply

    Church and politics

  19. Anonymous
    December 23, 2016 at 9:05 am Reply

    I agreen. Leave father Murray alone

  20. viewer
    December 23, 2016 at 9:51 am Reply

    I see nothing wrong in what the priest did that was so detrimental to the Catholic church and its members. The pope himself protest when something is wrong morally. This project not only threatens some of the residents in vieux fort,but also the government itself;based on what I have read…

  21. Anonymous
    December 23, 2016 at 10:03 am Reply

    Father Murray has his personal agenda and we do not know what it is. We are confused as to what he is protesting for. Is it the Sandy Beach? Is it against certain clause in the agreement or is it against the project on the whole? Is he requesting more information on the project? Who or what is his source of information? Though he is a sandy beach T-shirt I think he is against the DSH project all together. I believe he is ill-informed, he is been sent by individuals who do not want to show face and want to use the church christian influence on its people. The Mayor of Vieux Fort is an active member of the church. He has never request an audience with her on the issue. He has totally disregarded her. Who he wants to please, be informed that Vieux Fort Catholics are hoping and praying that he get out VFort soon. Over 80% of VFort youth are unemployed. Here we have an opportunity to have some employed, like we had in Gros Islet when the Sandal Grande was allowed to be build on the Pigeon Island which is a landmark.Who protested? We have all social ill among the youth in VFort and this priest has not protested. St Judes hospital is in a mess he has not protested. Why is he protesting against something he has little or no correct information about. VERY QUESTIONABLE.

    1. The Crow
      December 23, 2016 at 11:40 am Reply

      I suppose you have the information regarding this so called billion dollar project. Just let it happen and we will deal with the adverse effects later! Is that what you are suggesting Einstein?

  22. Anthony Williams
    December 23, 2016 at 1:05 pm Reply

    I think the public should remember when a Catholic priest during mass described Kenny Anthony ‘s mother in most undignified way . At last perhaps we have a priest with courage to do whats right

  23. Anonymous
    December 23, 2016 at 2:34 pm Reply

    Ask Ms Mary where was her voice when the sinor citizen was rape robbed and killed two Weeks ago didn’t hear her voice then .,.,and all the muggings and beatings of the foreigners coming to visit our country? I didn’t hear her voice.why is she only standing against the victims and not for or with them?.Is.she a one sided attorney or what? Just asking……….

  24. Anonymous
    December 23, 2016 at 11:09 pm Reply

    The gooroos are protesting against their own self .you all morons.

  25. Anonymous
    December 24, 2016 at 10:57 am Reply

    Why hasn’t Mary Francis say anything about Lambert St Rose who openly campaign in and out of church for the UWP?
    Hypocrisy

  26. Anonymous
    December 26, 2016 at 1:39 pm Reply

    Why are u people so arrogant. So u mean a hotel isnt going to bring more jobs to Vieux-fort? And dont u believe that the South needs a little more life and something to boost people to come here since everything is now in the north and Vieux-fort is slowly fading away.

  27. Rage
    December 26, 2016 at 2:07 pm Reply

    Who gives a hot load about vieux fort anyway. The place has been dead for years. Next frontier (Words deleted).

    I hope they build the resort and bring in Chinese working to construct and run it. Lucians are too lazy and worthless to actually give meaningful work anyway. Just make them dishwashers or something similar where they can’t steal and embarrass themselves with their poor English speaking skills.

    1. The Crow
      December 27, 2016 at 8:25 pm Reply

      You are an IDIOT! Nuff said.

      1. rage
        December 29, 2016 at 9:11 pm Reply

        typical monkey response. that dunnatar education paying off yet?

  28. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 11:32 am Reply

    So upset

    Are you saying why should the pries not get involved he did the right thing am not a Catholic believer bit I believe he is right to move along with the people to let they voices be heard I believe the problem is not the priest taking part in the demonstration but the face that he was there had the message reached whosoever it concerned I believe his attendance hit the nail right on its head, because to many times we the People speak and it’s not taken in consideration can’t you not see what is going on all church leaders all denominations just care about making money , batizing people. And leaving a happy life not caring what the poor people go through am so happy to see this pries take the lead and am sure it’s not me only a portion should be signed around at Lucia and the evidence would be revealed. Am sorry am not calling no priest father he is not my father God is so am going priest Murray cuddos to you for a job well done your father Jehovahhas your back just call him send you position to him no Manson earth will win you good job well done thanks.

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