Teen charged with blackmailing Minister

Teen charged with blackmailing Minister

A teenager appeared in court today on charges of attempting to blackmail Minister in the Ministry of Finance, Doctor Ubaldus Raymond.

The young woman has been identified as eighteen year old Curshaby Alexander of Beausejour, Gros Islet.

Alexander was granted bail in the sum of $10,000 when she appeared in court Friday.

If found guilty, the young student could face up to fourteen years in jail, legal sources have indicated.

Her appearance in court today came as Doctor Ubaldus Raymond issued a statement declaring that there have been attempts to extort monies from him through ‘devious means’.

He did not go into details.

However it is alleged that the charges against the teenage student were laid in connection with a threat to publish photos, purportedly of Raymond, if a certain payment was not made.

The Minister made it clear  in a written statement today that no amount of threats will cause him to turn away from his values as a human being and as a family man.

“People will constantly try to besmirch your character and use underhanded tactics to undermine your credibility,” Raymond said.

 

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94 Comments

  1. kevin
    January 13, 2017 at 5:11 pm Reply

    by fum la lajuh bom lee uh choo’u!

    1. Anonymous
      January 13, 2017 at 6:44 pm Reply

      Lol

  2. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 5:16 pm Reply

    Make an example of them.private is just that: Private: not for the Public enough with these old cell phones ,know you”ll place who give u the right to publish people life out there.make somebody else think twice.U go Dr.Ubaldus make them pay.

    1. real people
      January 13, 2017 at 6:13 pm Reply

      st.lucian need to wake up ……if you dont want nudes of you out there for the public to see just keep them to yourself …..u sent nudes of your own freewill then want to take the young lady court for showing them to someone else ….these laws so be overlooked ..im sure if it was the other way around …the girl sendin him the nudes that case would take forever

      1. Anonymous
        January 13, 2017 at 6:28 pm Reply

        You need to educate yourself before spouting off in a public forum…..this is not about showing nudes…this is about blackmail and extortion…..that is the crime!!

      2. Anonymous
        January 13, 2017 at 6:38 pm Reply

        That’s like putting a gun to someone’s head an demanding cash or a favor.

      3. Anonymous
        January 15, 2017 at 1:14 am Reply

        it wasn’t a nude it was a screenshot

      4. nehemiah purpose
        January 16, 2017 at 4:03 pm Reply

        truth real st luciann

    2. Mr. Cock she bal
      January 13, 2017 at 7:31 pm Reply

      They should have charged ubaldus with electronic prostitution.

    3. Anonymous
      January 13, 2017 at 10:43 pm Reply

      Agree. It was time someone got to pay. That SLAP group, some people are just too vindictive. Who feels it knows it.

    4. Anonymous
      January 14, 2017 at 2:30 am Reply

      This should
      have been your daughter

    5. Anonymous
      January 17, 2017 at 10:17 pm Reply

      whether it is private or public… does it negate the fact that he is a minister with a family….

  3. Febert
    January 13, 2017 at 5:18 pm Reply

    I hope that the same applies to other cases. This minister has a problem too

  4. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 5:21 pm Reply

    Mistakes in life!

    1. Anonymous
      January 13, 2017 at 6:04 pm Reply

      I hope that the minister makes an example of her. St lucian women can be too ghetto! Go Dr Raymond let them know that there are laws against that. Classless! None of us would want that for our families so lets not throw stones because we all have skeletons in our closets. Dr Raymond just learn from your mistakes and keep working on the family life to keep it tight and right .You have my support. This is not the way anyone should go about solving a problem. Go Dr Go!

      1. Anonymous
        January 17, 2017 at 10:15 pm Reply

        this is all you in-depth examination of the matter… yo would be proud if your child saw this kind of reasoning from you??? INTERESTING

  5. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 5:28 pm Reply

    Lol vat lowering and economic activity rising

  6. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 5:34 pm Reply

    So so sad.
    But private have to b private no matter what.
    But it has to start with some one .Sorry to say .
    She should not expose him if u want money if that the case go it wifey.
    It a shame on the hole country,case it will make international news.
    Again sorry to say if it was my kid also hole her 4 responsible for actions and he also.
    .Let her do the time if it comes to that.

    1. Ben
      January 13, 2017 at 7:35 pm Reply

      you write like a dyslexic three year old…english please!

  7. So ashame
    January 13, 2017 at 5:35 pm Reply

    They charging people less than that for murder and arm robbery. And a school child $10’000.00? Smh the justice system really sucks. She’s right!

    1. real people
      January 13, 2017 at 6:16 pm Reply

      you so right …lucia corrupt ….

    2. Anonymous
      January 13, 2017 at 9:23 pm Reply

      Just shows that even the justice system in this country is biased. Since when blackmail is a more severe crime than murder.
      I guess it differs when it affects a big wig in society.

    3. Anonymous
      January 13, 2017 at 9:56 pm Reply

      So unfair, the law is corrupt

  8. Vybz
    January 13, 2017 at 5:37 pm Reply

    Minister Vs [REMOVED BY ST. LUCIA TIMES]

  9. Davi
    January 13, 2017 at 5:42 pm Reply

    If you have not sin cast the first stone.

  10. Scandalous
    January 13, 2017 at 5:45 pm Reply

    Stop makin [REMOVED BY ST. LUCIA TIMES] wit St.lucians money…invest in the country instead…n try to remove the [REMOVED BY ST. LUCIA TIMES] off the legs

  11. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 5:48 pm Reply

    Question. How did she get the photos in the first place and tell me.since when a minister can bring charges when in there house is dirty .Crime’s will all ways happen remember minister u in joy ur self she how old and u because she has no surport u taking advantage remember Crimes foes pay

  12. GiveHer20Years
    January 13, 2017 at 6:23 pm Reply

    Give the [REMOVED BY ST. LUCIA TIMES] 20 years. Too desperate for quick money. Thats the ones that selling [REMOVED BY ST. LUCIA TIMES] for money quick.

  13. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 6:23 pm Reply

    Where is Mary Francis in that how thé hell that case got to court so quick

    1. Someone
      January 13, 2017 at 8:51 pm Reply

      Look how fast this case got processed and still nothing for the previous rape cases which were reported.

  14. mweh mem
    January 13, 2017 at 6:24 pm Reply

    What nonsense is that… the girl leak your photos what you self was doing playing stripper on whatsapp call and you willing to let the young lady go to jail for 14 years if guilty.. thats what really going to make you happy… is not like people will remember these disgusting pictures tomorrow

  15. Mercy
    January 13, 2017 at 6:37 pm Reply

    That’s ur fault she had all dem pics n ur wife stand by u listening to u say u a family man n pics of ur Winnie on social media smh open ur eyes my lady

    1. nunya
      January 13, 2017 at 10:27 pm Reply

      She sticking by his side thru sickness,health,wealth,poverty n blackmailing

      1. Anonymous
        January 13, 2017 at 11:38 pm Reply

        mama,she has no shame too!

  16. Thoroughly Disgusted
    January 13, 2017 at 6:52 pm Reply

    Ubaldus too damn nasty…..he should be arrested for exposing his disgusting (bleep)! Men like that prey on the young girls because they cannot satisfy grown women. It is a shame that he will now make a public statement blaming every one but himself for his abhorrent behaviour. And of course she was quickly arrested….first time I see police respond so quickly…. The perverts like Ubaldus are free to take advantage of the young, inexperienced girls. This whole thing makes me sick. That man has no respect for God, his wife and children, his church, his office, St. Lucian’s or himself. Talking about values, integrity, Almighty God like he is a victim here. Just goes to show his pompous character and his narcissistic personality…. Sigh. Upset my delicate stomach with these photos and that address to the nation…smh

    1. Citizen
      January 13, 2017 at 7:20 pm Reply

      Worst things happen! He won’t be the last.

    2. upset
      February 6, 2017 at 11:38 am Reply

      U so damn rite my stomach aches

  17. DisappointedInTeen
    January 13, 2017 at 6:54 pm Reply

    Curshaby is a mad girl.. u thought that woulda be a joke and everybody woulda laugh and it would be over.. yeah right.. next time think before u act.. yall like too much fame and attention.. You probably deh regretting that.. stupid little girl

    1. Anonymous
      January 14, 2017 at 7:45 am Reply

      Teenagers like u who will end up in a jam n expect ppl to understand why SO SHUT UP N LET GOD JUDGE THE YOUNG LADY. Stupid judgemental teen chpz. No matter wat she did point is she’s already getti dealt with LEAVE HER ALONE……u must b amani or his friends or ur muda n fada r strong labah😂😂😂im 1 too so doe dig low di girl

  18. Ganjadaddy
    January 13, 2017 at 7:00 pm Reply

    The girl right. Ubaldus left… Hanging.
    Seriously she is wrong for publishing the photos and attempting to blackmail/extort. However, Ubaldus should bear some of the blame too. First, you are married with kids and shouldn’t be caught in these compromising situations. Second, you are a grown man in a relationship (albeit short) with a young girl. Third, you are a minister of government. Fourth, you were played by an A’level student and you have a PhD. Where u got that, a crackerjack box?

    1. Citizen
      January 13, 2017 at 7:19 pm Reply

      Well said mate!

      1. Kelisha Laborde
        February 15, 2017 at 5:40 pm Reply

        I want to know what did she did to get charged with

    2. Lucia Large
      January 13, 2017 at 7:31 pm Reply

      And when the photos of young women are leaked we call the guys all kinda names and call for their incarceration? The issue here is not about 2 consenting adults doing their business, the issue is the attempt at using a personal sexual interaction as a source of extortion. That is a crime. Do what the law requires. The minister was unfaithful to his wife and shame his family if these details are true. Let him suffer those consequences. There are no legal issues/infractions on his part. She however, overplayed her hand. DId not think this through properly or she was misled and used by political operatives. Lucian politics has become dirty. Certain people were the worse thing to happen to Lucian politics when they joined.

      1. Anonymous
        January 13, 2017 at 8:14 pm Reply

        Well said.

    3. Anonymous
      January 14, 2017 at 8:49 am Reply

      The man is book smart not street smart.. He spend too much time in school… Lol

    4. Anonymous
      January 14, 2017 at 12:47 pm Reply

      everyone falls short, the other married men tht do the same thing are no better thn the Minister, just unfortunate for him tht he got exposed…just becuz he’s a minister does not mke his punishment any worse thn if it was another man

    5. upset
      February 6, 2017 at 11:40 am Reply

      Lol

  19. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 7:07 pm Reply

    I never knew this country was like this .I came to st.luica on vacation from englandand I was held gun point at my place of residence where a guy came acting like a police office as I opened the door he had a gun to my head

    1. Citizen
      January 13, 2017 at 7:18 pm Reply

      Never open your doors to the unknown…..sorry to hear however it happens everywhere on a daily basis…..not on lucia

    2. Anonymous
      January 14, 2017 at 6:29 am Reply

      Seemed like prostitution to me… isn’t that a crime?

  20. DIRECTOR X
    January 13, 2017 at 7:08 pm Reply

    DON’T U KNOW U CAN’T BLACKMAIL A BLACK MALE? YOU GOT TO WHITE WASH HIM

    1. upset
      February 6, 2017 at 11:41 am Reply

      Lmfao

  21. Citizen
    January 13, 2017 at 7:11 pm Reply

    Seriously people! Extortion is a crime! She is of the age of consent to be a tourism worker” minister keep your head shots out of these pictures…..professionals don’t make that mistake.
    However with social media as it is why the heck did you decide to have these written messages and send nude pictures? Raymond you need help unless your wife consents then y’all need Jesus!
    Wifey you need to sprouse up your self and act like the “Jabal” / tourism worker! Stop being so damn vanilla have your husbands looking for excitement!
    That being said our young women need to have more self respect! Boy Raymond “you packing” lol sookoo 😉 Some women are salivating while some men are jealous!

  22. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 7:25 pm Reply

    Shame on you man as a husband n a minister. An 18 year old???. U have a wife, children, nieces, nephews n so forth. U too nasty. As for the girl, that old ugly, gorilla, monkey. If I was ur mother I would step out of this n u face all the consequences. I would not put a dime in
    Ur scandal. Face ur shame on ur own. You’ll young people like money too much n too fast. The man is old enough to be your father.ur mother should give u had some hard slaps.

  23. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 7:39 pm Reply

    Shut ur if the man did not have a personal relationship with the child she would not have pics of him

  24. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 7:39 pm Reply

    Hmmmm…who paid the 10,000$ ?.

  25. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 7:52 pm Reply

    St.lucians are too biased and petty. Please dont make this a political matter. From what I have seen and heard, this was a well calculated plan by an adult female. Had she published the photos with out any demands it wouldve been nonetheless no charge if not less. But extortion or blackmail whatever you call it is a crime. …..on another not lol this poor girl should have though like an american…sell it to the tabloids sell your story and your photos..thats sure money…lol…

  26. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 8:01 pm Reply

    It was time to make examples of these young girls they like to much easy money. They will learn to leave people husbands alone . That’s not Q you dealing with (Stanley ) that was paying them for sex

    1. upset
      February 6, 2017 at 12:10 pm Reply

      Y don’t you tell the married men leave the young women the hell alone

  27. smh
    January 13, 2017 at 8:31 pm Reply

    this is a clear case of persons in power getting away with anything they feel like doing. president bill clinton had an affair with his secretary he had to step down. now you got a minister who is in his 40’s having an affair with an 18year old girl, that man right there is a pervert. how can st.lucia have a man like that in power. but then again he has his friends in power so its cool to get away with it.

  28. Love of God
    January 13, 2017 at 8:57 pm Reply

    The devil is working to kill and destroy Christians.Come on everyone .Let us put God back in our lives

  29. southern bolom
    January 13, 2017 at 9:15 pm Reply

    So many rape casses. Nada. No arrests. Nothing. This 18 year old female was arrested swift. Crime just start in Lucia. Brace yourselves fellow islanders.

  30. chpz
    January 13, 2017 at 9:20 pm Reply

    Them little girl will do anything for money… hair, outfit for every occasion… money moggers. Low class. Who’s to be embarrass now..sir keep your head up high. You’re not the only one.. nor the first or last… just that they haven’t been caught. The opposition had plenty! !!!!

  31. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 10:03 pm Reply

    young boy cyah get girl cause di big men takinh all

  32. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 10:04 pm Reply

    What!!! (Expression deleted) is this $10,000 for bail, 14 years if found guilty for crap like this. When there are criminals getting $2000 bail for possession of fire arm and other crimes. There are so much rape cases pending, other problems to numerous to mention in this so called island but in a situation like this where there is a so called person with a position in society, action was taken in a blink of an eye. This is why we have so much crime in this country because the justice system are to focused on crap like this and the serious matters are left in the dark. That making sense!!! (Word deleted) God be with you my girl.

  33. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 10:29 pm Reply

    Ubaldus never denied having a sexual relation or denied that’s him in the pics. He goes into a sad hymn about his integrity and reputation God and family man. Pure crap

  34. life is wat u make it
    January 13, 2017 at 11:02 pm Reply

    Some say it right to happen to him… Because he target a young poor girl …Question if she is so poor..how did she got 10,000 to bail hetself so fast? She ain’t poor trust me

    She knew exactly wat she was up to.. Am sure thats not her first time threating men..I guess some gave her wat she ask for just to hide their shame. Smh you think distroying someone’s reputation will make things better 4 u…no it won’t…as a young lady u should think twice atlease for his family..he trusted u..
    Come on we all HV skeletons in our closet no ones perfect..y didn’t u speak to his wife in person or on the phone…naaaa u loved the entertainments it was part of ur plan to mess him up…but wat goes around must cum bac…he live most of his life already n made lots of cash. U hvnt even started urs…but u spoil it already ? which man will trust u? Who will take u serious? What are u? Who does that for $700.?oh n where is the full convo? Cause from wat ive seen u only expose wat u wanted us to c …but tell us how did this really started..? Cause no man in their right mind wont jus video call u n trip or jork….i guess he wasnt thinkin …besides i can see his brains in his hands. Lol. Wat a piece of mix up!!!

  35. 666
    January 13, 2017 at 11:02 pm Reply

    He is the root of the problem…charge him!

    1. LB
      January 14, 2017 at 7:34 pm Reply

      He … brought the criminal charges against her. Who will charge him, and for what?

  36. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 11:03 pm Reply

    Jail her she will lean wen to go public or stay private

  37. Anonymous
    January 13, 2017 at 11:42 pm Reply

    WHEN HE ADDRESS THE NATION ONLY THING I SAW WAS HIS BLEEPPPPPP.OLD MAN LIKE U ,WASN T THINKING OF WIFEY.OR WIFEY DONT HAVE IT ANY MORE 🙁

  38. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 12:17 am Reply

    Why the hell is this sorry excuse of a man playing victim

  39. #FREEMAGIRLSHABY
    January 14, 2017 at 1:48 am Reply

    Honestly,Lucians will say what they think is right, what they believe is the truth and how the situation may in some cases affect their lives.
    1.how did they get each other’s contact information ?
    2.why didn’t he contact police or an investigator to go into the uprising problem ?
    3.why did he send his “2.5 to stay alive” for her?
    4.why did he FaceTime her?
    And 5.if he was the one threatening to post her pictures would the tables turn ? We are all seeking the answers. Would they treat this case differently ?.
    The media shows you what they want you to know so most of you will remain confused if you don’t know how to read between the lines .
    You can’t blame her alone,it takes two hands to clap.

  40. shave by your Gwen
    January 14, 2017 at 2:04 am Reply

    It was so easy to release her name , yet they don’t release that of the RAPISTS? SMH!

    1. LB
      January 14, 2017 at 7:32 pm Reply

      FYI.. if the “rapist” is caught and charged, his/her name is published in the news media. Where does YOUR comment fit in in this story?

  41. CF
    January 14, 2017 at 3:03 am Reply

    I really hope she gets punished and serves some serious jaul time. This will teach all them young girls to stop protistuting themselves and blackmailing dudes. I have been a victim of a young lady who tried to use sex to gain favours and blackmail me. It was during my divorce proceedings. My wife and I had been separated for 10 months but kept up the marriage for our kids and public appearance because of my high profile job. I eventually met a younger lady who I thought was in love with me. I made it known to her I dont do paid sex with young girls. She was adamant that it wasnt about my money. We started a sexual relationship. Then one day she asked me for a large sum of money to purchase a vehicle. i didnt pay because i thought it was a bad investment on her part. She thought i was being cheap. She threatened me with sexual pics of me and her together but i told her go ahead. She then showed up at my work to threaten me. My boss was very understanding but it affected my work performance and bonuses. She went to my exwife asking for money to testify against me in the divorce to state our relationship started a bit longer than we had been together. Even saying i was having sex with her from the time she was 17 (she was 17 when we met but we didnt start a relationship until 3 years later). My ex wife didn’t give her the time of day because she recognised a lie in the girl’s story. This girl terrorized my life for 8 months after we broke up. Eventually i had to file a restraining order. She eventually found herself dating some much older and richer married dude – a current minister. I pray for this guy that he can support her lifestyle. Yes. My wife and I eventually divorced but this young lady wanted to profit off my divorce. These young ladies only value is what is between their legs. If you want them know your wallet is the only value to them. The minute the money ran out or you say no you become the biggest monster to them. I am happily remarried now to a lady who is closer to my age. I learned my lesson. Things could have been a lot worst!

  42. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 3:25 am Reply

    .

  43. Coward
    January 14, 2017 at 3:26 am Reply

    It’s time st. Lucians acknowledge blackmailing as a crime! I have been in a similar situation where my partner secretly video taped me and threatened to publish it after our separation if I hadn’t met certain conditions! I considered taking the matter to court …. Spoke to a lawyer etc. but since this was a civil matter and I am not a big household name nothing came out of it! Btw, I never met his demands … he was just an insecure cowardly guy!

  44. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 5:13 am Reply

    The young school children whose photos were put to the public had no case and they knew who did it. Nothing for that. A back log of cases that can not be called. Adjournment non stop. This one can go to court in a day. St lucians need to act.

  45. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 5:19 am Reply

    And for an attempted murder $7000.. I hate st lucia

  46. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 7:28 am Reply

    Y these married men say i do take God for their nonsense so I though the ministers were there to help but they bringing us down they didn’t have to walk with the girl they both have to be blame it is not a one sided thing so lucians stop saying those things the minister is married and I am sure he reads his bible if u are a God fearing person u would let go ask God for forgiveness and move on u wanted that. Because when she asked u for the $700 ushould oay up at the end of the day stop treating the young lady like a murder our people to dirty so please mr u just end that if you believe in God your wife and the church what are you getting out of it now u people saying all these things back down and we saying y our country have so many suicides Lord put a hand

  47. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 7:41 am Reply

    Stop making this situation look political because mr minister not because that happen u want to prove what make her future go down but if u and your wife are church people and all the other people saying make an example od her remember is to hands that clapping

  48. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 7:44 am Reply

    Mr ubaldus needs to be fired as a minister. Ibam not supporting the uoung lady yes she shud face her pebalty for trying to extort money from him. But come on uwp and the pm, a minister of government naked over social media on everybody s phone, man woman and child phone. How cud this man be respected. Mr Raymond dug his hole so he has to fit in it.

  49. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 8:10 am Reply

    Sad Saturday…. ubaldus while u are at church today with your wife and children pray for the young lady. Pray also for forgiveness and on monday morning god willing please go to the couthouse and drop the charges. Do not ruin the young lady’s life. Thank uou sir.

  50. Anonymous
    January 14, 2017 at 11:14 am Reply

    ubaldus aka young daddy lol

  51. Calvin
    January 14, 2017 at 5:03 pm Reply

    His former students at Howard University seemed to have liked him:

    http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=292478

    1. Anonymous
      January 15, 2017 at 6:58 am Reply

      Calvin some of these reviews were rather interesting.

      1. Calvin
        January 15, 2017 at 11:53 am Reply

        Yes, Anonymous, I too found them interesting given what some of them infer regarding being an attractive female and alleged influence on grades, and the comments were not exactly posted yesterday in any way tied to this most recent matter…

        Each of us are free to make our own inferences or not…

  52. LB
    January 14, 2017 at 7:28 pm Reply

    1. Where are this “child’s” parents??
    2. For this “child” to concoct such a story – she is too young for such a “sophisticated crime”
    3. Where are this “child’s” values? None as far as I can see.
    4. Who is the true “victim” here? The “child” or the minister?
    5. This “child” chose to play with grown ups in a grown up world …. and is now paying the price of wanting to be “in” (the playing field).
    6. I blame the “child”, and her parents (if she has any), and her lack of sense of values.

    Note to all readers/comments … don’t be too quick to judge this “child” or the minister, I am sure there is much more to this story.

  53. Anonymous
    January 15, 2017 at 12:20 pm Reply

    Many people have many comments.

    A democracy allows us to contact our elected officials to let them know of our opinions and suggestions.

    PM Office numbers as follows from the public directory:

    General Office: 468-2175
    PM Secretary: 468-2184
    Cabinet Secretary: 468-2102

  54. #im for against crime
    January 15, 2017 at 10:38 pm Reply

    Her bail should have been 30000. The same amount she wanted. At the end of the day. The minster decided that her sex wasn’t worth all that. It’s time the women stop sleeping with people they don’t know for money. She is just another whore

    1. Anonymous
      January 16, 2017 at 4:04 pm Reply

      (Words deleted) they never had sex

  55. Anonymous
    February 15, 2017 at 12:25 am Reply

    He is not giving away the country money on young girl. He is human and he got paid for outside lust and because he refused to pay the world found out about the situation. What about those who give the money, their names are seldom heard. The young girl sets no good example for young girls, she shows what many young girls do sleep around for money. They should watch the beautiful young ladies who work hard to earn a living. Both the minister and the girl need to be blamed. It’s a teaching of life watch it on both sides, they both cause disrespect to his wife it takes 2 to gets a relationship going. Country money, why people cheat, young beautiful girls weakness($), money men problem any price for sex, our human beings problem most judge on a favor bases. Judge righteously and see how much these 2 are guilty of hurt to us as a people and as individuals. Be just

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