Bahamas Clergyman: Blacks breed too much

Bahamas Clergyman: Blacks breed too much

Tribune 242:-NASSAU-  TARGETING the “racist and misogynistic” statements made by Anglican Archbishop James Palacious last week, noted Bahamian attorney, author, and United Nations expert Marion Bethel called for the elevation of women’s voices and institutions to push back against the predominant misogynistic and discriminatory climate in the country.

Mrs Bethel cautioned community leaders against taking the easy route by using uninformed, inflammatory and offensive statements to garner sound bites as it is unproductive, leads to a real misunderstanding of their intentions, and hinders progress towards possible solutions.

She reacted to “inflammatory” statements made by public figures on the Majority Rule Day holiday, and reports that women have been denied the right to register to vote due to their attire, during an interview with The Tribune on Thursday.

To the reports of women being turned away at voter registration sites, she said: “It really has to just stop, period, end of story. I feel as though this is part of the result of the climate created during the (equality) referendum around women, our dignity, our bodies, the choices that we make, it’s part of the same continuum for me.

“I don’t think that we’ve really addressed it and I think more women’s voices need to be raised and women’s institutions need to speak to this violation of ourselves and our integrity. It’s not going to get any better until we actually stand up and say no more,” she said.

On Tuesday, Archdeacon Palacious admonished black and poor people for having children that they cannot afford as he underscored the need for Bahamians to take greater personal responsibility for social ills in the country, and its development.

Addressing a crowd of supporters at the end of a march to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Majority Rule, he declared that “black people breed too much,” and explained that “unless we can control our reproductive process we will always be recycling poverty.”

“I’m really offended by the words ‘black people breed too much,’” Mrs Bethel said. “It relegates me and black people in this country to animals and it echoes for me certain aspects of slavery when we’re talking about breeding people, which is totally disgusting and obscene.

In this country, black, white, Asian, we all live in social institutions as human beings with human relations and social relations that are different. If we want to effect change of understanding of reproductive capacity, then I would call on the church, and I would call on the school, and other institutions that are really concerned about the issue.

“This is something that we as human beings need to address, young people and adults, we all need access to information about our reproductive health, about our sexual rights, so we can make informed decisions about our bodies and how many children we want and when we want them,” she added.

Father Palacious’ call to “control the reproductive process” follows comments made by Montagu MP Richard Lightbourn, who also attempted to broach the subject of family planning by suggesting mandatory and state-sponsored sterilisation of unwed mothers with more than two children as an anti-crime initiative. Mr Lightbourn made those comments during the Free National Movements convention last July, and faced strong backlash from many people, including Father Palacious, parliamentarians, and local advocacy groups.

At that time, the archdeacon condemned Mr Lightbourn’s proposal as “completely repulsive”, but acknowledged that the country needed to engage in a national family planning programme to prevent the “madness” of multiple children being reared in undesirable circumstances.

Archdeacon Palacious reiterated this point last Tuesday, telling crowds that while Mr Lightbourn’s comments were “most unfortunate,” he agreed with the principle of what the Montagu MP was trying to say.

You have children on the lunch programme right now mothers,” Father Palacious said on Tuesday, “and you going having some more, come on man. Give me a break, give yourself a break. God didn’t put you here as any baby machine, he put you here to be a productive citizen of this country.”

Father Palacious also said that he is “dismayed” that the 2016 gender equality referendum did not prevail, and disappointed that on the 50th anniversary of Majority Rule, that the majority of Bahamians still did not have some fundamental rights under the Constitution.

During Thursday’s interview, Mrs Bethel also highlighted disparaging statements made by Dame Joan Sawyer at the We March demonstration also staged on the holiday.

Dame Joan urged Bahamians to be more critical as citizens and consumers, and criticised several government initiatives like value added tax and Bahamas Junkanoo Carnival. She also zeroed in on the morality of the carnival event, which she described as a festival where women make themselves “exhibits”.

“You call that upward movement?” she asked.

No way, no time, must we as a people forget what our foreparents struggled for. You do not climb to the top on your back, women.

Dame Joan said that women who engaged in such actions had no right to demand respect.

“It seems to me that whenever we’re talking about social mores it comes down to women,” Mrs Bethel said, “it doesn’t come down to men. It comes down to women being this way, or immoral, or lacking, it’s nothing else. It really is a climate right now where women are being scapegoated for all kinds of social ills.

“It’s women and men who are really downgrading women, and men are not subject to this type of analysis of morality. It’s always a woman’s morality that is the problem or issue. We have a lot of work to do in changing this kind of gender bias, that’s fundamentally what it is, the double standard of morality,” Mrs Bethel said.

“I’m not surprised there are women that support what Father Palacious has said, just like there are many people that supported what Richard Lightbourn was saying. It’s no matter whether you’re black or white, that doesn’t make it better, more accessible, or less racist. It’s entirely misogynistic.”

Mrs Bethel noted that while it was easy to give sound bites and lambaste the public, she personally desired leaders to be a part of the solution by using their platform to espouse productive, helpful and informed views. She added that according to officials from the Bahamas Association of Sexual Health and Rights, teenage pregnancy was trending down in 2016.

Mrs Bethel said: “I really want to see a primary and high school curriculum that speaks to these issues, and of gender stereotypes that may make young women feel that they should have children for esteem.

“This is a part of socialisation that we have made happen so we can change it. It’s not just about young women and our capacity to bear children but about a very comprehensive approach to the integrity of our bodies, the choices of our bodies.”

Mrs Bethel said: “The question is bigger and larger than what Father Palacious is putting forward, his view is not informed in my opinion and it’s not a helpful view. It doesn’t take us to the next stage of understanding the issue of reproduction, taking care of our children, being responsible citizens, these are larger issues than the way he is framing it.”

You must not throw out words that are inflammatory, that are not productive, that lead to a real misunderstanding of what you’re saying. Don’t start off with that,” she added, “for me that shows what you really think, but as a leader you ought to be better informed about the issues.”

Mrs Bethel is among 11 experts elected to serve on the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women.

She is also the wife of Progressive Liberal Party leadership candidate and former Attorney General Alfred Sears.

13 Comments

  1. Anonymous
    January 17, 2017 at 2:58 pm Reply

    How utterly offensive.

  2. TC
    January 17, 2017 at 3:01 pm Reply

    its not offensive and whats hurts the most they never have. damn it

  3. A
    January 17, 2017 at 3:02 pm Reply

    Amen amen pastor, the bible should have stressed the at verse go fourth and multiply only if u can afford.

  4. TOTALLY AGREE
    January 17, 2017 at 3:05 pm Reply

    anonymous ,u find that offensive, they only breeding with bastards and creating future devils . ur’ll never like to hear the damn truth. most stlucians girls by the age of 21 already have a damn child. sMH and where they live ? in their mother house and when they finish they want government to help take them out of poverty, smh..

    BLACKS DO NOT LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH.

    1. Anonymous
      January 17, 2017 at 3:48 pm Reply

      For the record, I AM NOT BLACK.

      And it is still offensive to black people in my opinion.
      The two most populous countries in the world is India and China.

    2. Pankaiso
      January 18, 2017 at 9:35 am Reply

      If only I had my way with you for five minutes I would have you to sit and digest those very words some how I don’t think that your closet is without a spiders web because it’s the same black girls that you leave your pale skin looking cockroach wives for so much so that you cannot get enough of the black and brown skins Lucian and Carribean girls by extension so shut your trap and go jump

  5. Sad-But-True
    January 17, 2017 at 3:42 pm Reply

    It’s not offensive. It is obvious that white people cannot produce as much as any other race. They are a dying breed or group altogether. More whites are dying than being born. And it’s by design. Nature is taking is rebalanced itself. So they feel threatened that they are soon going to be no more on this earth. No matter how they try to breed, it is not happening. So it’s their defence mechanism and low self-esteem that will cause this white recessive gene to say that. Lol.

    1. Pankaiso
      January 18, 2017 at 9:39 am Reply

      My goodness have you now come to your senses three cheers to you at the lease you have said something good ,may I humbly ask would you consider you prime Minister as black and loving don’t mind that you want to get under his wrobe to bite it of ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

  6. upppyourz
    January 17, 2017 at 4:20 pm Reply

    Amazing to see the ignorance supporting this garbage. Black people breed too much? Why don’t you go and ask China about “breeding”? Or India? Really?Because no other race procreates in poverty right? The level of stupidity is astounding.

  7. Sad-But-True
    January 17, 2017 at 4:27 pm Reply

    It’s not offensive. It is obvious that white people cannot produce as much as any other race. They are a dying breed or group altogether. More whites are dying than being born. And it’s by design. Nature is rebalancing itself. So they feel threatened that they are soon going to be no more on this earth. No matter how they try to breed, it is not happening. So it’s their defence mechanism and low self-esteem that will cause this white recessive gene to say that. Lol.

    Whites with their Low Birth-rate. Lol.

  8. Clear as daylight.
    January 17, 2017 at 8:49 pm Reply

    Lucians i know it long but please read,it will answer all your questions. Please read all historical material you get on anything .It will answer everyfing thrown at you. Thanks and enjoy.

    Negro Project: Margaret Sanger’s Eugenic Plan for Black people.

    … I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live.
    Deuteronomy 30:19 (NKJV)

    On the crisp, sunny, fall Columbus Day in 1999, organizers of the Say So march approached the steps of the U.S. Supreme Court. The marchers, who were predominantly black pastors and lay persons, concluded their three-day protest at the site of two monumental cases: the school desegregation Brown v. Board of Education (1954) and the pro-abortion Roe v. Wade (1973). The significance of each caseequal rights for all Americans in the former, and abortion rights in the latterconverged in the declaration of Rev. Johnny M. Hunter, the march’s sponsor and national director of Life, Education and Resource Network (LEARN), the largest black pro-life organization.
    Many Americans black and whiteare unaware of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. Sanger created this program in 1939, after the organization changed its name from the American Birth Control League (ABCL) to the Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA).1
    The aim of the program was to restrictmany believe exterminatethe black population. Under the pretense of better health and family planning, Sanger cleverly implemented her plan. What’s more shocking is Sanger’s beguilement of black America’s crème de la crèmethose prominent, well educated and well-to-dointo executing her scheme. Some within the black elite saw birth control as a means to attain economic empowerment,elevate the race and garner the respect of whites.
    The Negro Project has had lasting repercussions in the black community: We have become victims of genocide by our own hands, cried Hunter at the Say So march.
    Malthusian Eugenics
    Margaret Sanger aligned herself with the eugenicists whose ideology prevailed in the early 20th century. Eugenicists strongly espoused racial supremacy and purity, particularly of the Aryan race. Eugenicists hoped to purify the bloodlines and improve the race by encouraging the fit to reproduce and the unfit to restrict their reproduction. They sought to contain the inferior races through segregation, sterilization, birth control and abortion.
    Sanger embraced Malthusian eugenics. Thomas Robert Malthus, a 19th-century cleric and professor of political economy, believed a population time bomb threatened the existence of the human race.2 He viewed social problems such as poverty, deprivation and hunger as evidence of this population crisis. According to writer George Grant, Malthus condemned charities and other forms of benevolence, because he believed they only exacerbated the problems. His answer was to restrict population growth of certain groups of people.3 His theories of population growth and economic stability became the basis for national and international social policy. Grant quotes from Malthus’ magnum opus, An Essay on the Principle of Population, published in six editions from 1798 to 1826:
    All children born, beyond what would be required to keep up the population to a desired level, must necessarily perish, unless room is made for them by the deaths of grown persons. We should facilitate, instead of foolishly and vainly endeavoring to impede, the operations of nature in producing this mortality.4
    Malthus’ disciples believed if Western civilization were to survive, the physically unfit, the materially poor, the spiritually diseased, the racially inferior, and the mentally incompetent had to be suppressed and isolatedor even, perhaps, eliminated. His disciples felt the subtler and more scientific approaches of education, contraception, sterilizationand abortion were more practical and acceptable ways to ease the pressures of the alleged overpopulation.

  9. 666
    January 18, 2017 at 9:26 am Reply

    Lack of education and religious brainwash make ppl breed like rabbits. Poor ppl breed the most!

  10. Garth A. Roberts.
    January 18, 2017 at 10:53 am Reply

    Well let me just say this, the goverment of the Bahamas must be more responsible, in the way they pay to these nine & ten & eleven, etc. !!!!!!!!!!!!!. let’s look at the national insurance scheme, One baby, $600.00. Well two baby’s +600.00. Three babies, well add $600.00. So of we the goverment can’t see where the problam lies, then vote them out. and who comes after then with the same practices. If you gave me $600.00. Then $600.00. Then$600.00. Don’t forget I had the first on at nine years old. So by the time I hits 18. I have 9 children, for 9 differant MAN. Now mathematics comes in.lol. 6×9=54. So if I can collect $5400.00.each month, from national insurance. Why not be a baby mechaine.lol. How much professional in the Bahamas, goes home with this amount each month? Now you Dr where the problam lies.lol

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