LGBT official blasts religious leaders

A Saint Lucia LGBT official has blasted Caribbean religious ministers who wrote a letter of concern to United States President, Donald Trump, urging the U.S to stop exporting its LGBT agenda.

The January 31, 2017 letter from religious officials in the Bahamas, Guyana, St. Maarten, St. Vincent, and Trinidad and Tobago, asserted that the Obama administration’s State Department deployed coercive measures to normalize same-sex marriage and elevate LGBT issues at the expense of human rights.

However Bennet Charles of the LGBT organization here, United and Strong, has described the letter as being sad and almost hypocritical.

The United and Strong Communications and Advocacy Officer recalled that during the first week in February, religious leaders from several Caribbean countries met in Trinidad to discuss playing a greater role in advancing issues related to HIV and AIDS care in the region.

The LGBT official told the Times that the agenda item was a big issue because of the impact of HIV and AIDS within the LGBT population.

He also made reference to the issue of violence against women and girls.

“Religious leaders within the Caribbean region have recognized the fact that people are losing faith in their religious leaders,”  Charles told the Times.

He asserted that the once dominant religious organisations in the Caribbean are losing their members.

“I think they are very scared that people are becoming a lot more liberal and more open-minded when it comes to understanding how we accept and in some areas tolerate people of different sexual orientations – people of different religious persuasions,” the United and Strong official explained.

He accused Caribbean religious leaders of having remained silent on a number of occasions when the human rights of individuals have been violated.

Charles told the Times that the very administration of President Donald Trump has threatened to stop support to the International Family Planning Association, an organization the LGBT official said has been doing ‘immense good’ for women of the Caribbean region.

“There are so many other issues that we wish the religious leaders in the Caribbean would have asked for support from the Trump administration, but they choose to single out one specific issue because they believe that they are being threatened and they know that they are being threatened,” he stated.

Charles said Caribbean religious officials believe that the issues related to same-sex marriages and discussion represent North American policy.

But he told the Times that religious leaders need to understand and face the fact of what members of their congregations are going through, including persecution from within the ranks of their own religious organisations.

“Why are persons moving faiths, becoming more evangelical rather than hard line Catholics, Seventh Day Adventists – why is this happening?” Charles said.

He declared that as the only LGBT organization in Saint Lucia, United and Strong will continue to be the voice of those who are persecuted and  persons against whom religions have turned their backs, forgetting that ‘each and every one of these persons is a child of God.’

Charles said he hoped Caribbean religious leaders will be willing to sit down, have ‘meaningful’ conversation with LGBT and human rights organisations and stop remaining mute on issues affecting the region.

“Instead of hiding behind a letter and trying to get Trump to do your work for you, we need you to get out as religious leaders and start meeting the people and understanding and dealing with the issues they are facing because they are members of your flock,” he stated.

According to Charles, those members of the flock are the ones who go to church every day.

He said they are lost sometimes and  are trying to seek God.

“They look to you religious leaders for guidance but sadly, this guidance comes in the form of prejudice – ‘ You cannot be a child of God and be  LGBT Gay or lesbian’ we think this is hypocritical,” the United and Strong official told the Times.

Charles expressed the hope that when all is said and done, Caribbean people can live as one despite differences in race, culture or sexual orientation.

 

 

 

64 Comments

  1. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 6:07 am

    Animals even have more brains than these LGBT people. Male dogs sleeps with the female gender. Male fish goes after the female. Male goats runs after the female and the list goes on. These animals are supposed to be lesser. Only human beings, created in the image of God acts contrary to the norm. I suggest you should castrate each other so you don’t have nothing dangling between your legs. Pure Nonsense.

    1. Anonymous
      March 27, 2017 at 8:48 am

      Well said

    2. Anonymous
      March 27, 2017 at 9:03 am

      Lol. Very true.

    3. Equality 4 all
      March 27, 2017 at 9:22 am

      Clearly you’re dumb!
      It has been proven that over 150 species of animals have shown to be gay from dogs to fish to whales to birds to reptiles the only species that has a problem with it is the human race. Do your research before you write RIDICULOUS STATEMENTS

      1. Anonymous
        March 27, 2017 at 9:34 am

        And we should be above the animals no?

      2. Anonymous
        March 29, 2017 at 7:03 am

        Proven by whom? Fact is only human beings are gay. It’s not even worth engaging those people in any type of meaningful discussion. They have sick brains.

    4. Jean St.Lici
      March 27, 2017 at 10:13 am

      Big up!

  2. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 6:09 am

    While we all are children of God , where does it state that God made two men or two women we need to stop teaching what is wrong to make it right

    1. Correction
      April 3, 2017 at 9:38 am

      The Bible is clear that all people are God’s creation (Colossians 1:16), and that God loves the entire world (John 3:16), but only those who are born again are children of God (John 1:12; 11:52; Romans 8:16; 1 John 3:1-10).

      They that do the will of the Devil and promote his agenda are NOT the children of God. and that is NOT limited to gays.

      Be aware also that occasional sin is not the same as a movement to promote sin.

  3. Jean St.Lici
    March 27, 2017 at 6:09 am

    Boom bye bye in a batty bwoy head!

  4. Relentless
    March 27, 2017 at 6:28 am

    This young man is truly a shining light for equal rights of people in st lucia. We should all try to be like him, sticking to what we believe in at all times. What he says makes alot of sense. I am not gay, or bisexual. Just saying.. Stop putting ours down. And yes there are incidents of homosexuality in the animal kingdom…

  5. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 6:48 am

    I cannot wait for these ppl to go back to the damn closets they were in back in the 80 ‘s.

  6. Julie Fowles
    March 27, 2017 at 7:07 am

    What is wrong with being gay or lesbian ,it isn’t right what ur country does ,they don’t help same sex ppl ,they don’t do anything wrong do they an why are ppl anti homophobic ,this is 2017 get a grip

    1. Yep
      March 27, 2017 at 9:22 am

      You’re STUPID. CAN’T EVEN WRITE PROPERLY ANTI HOMOPHOBIC IS for homosexualité. ..and that us what they are against. OK. It is biblical. Bible has not changed …neither has God and His stance on the subject. You get a grip. We believe as we do…you believe as you do. Do not make us out to be old fashioned or wrong because we follow God’s written word.
      We can be loving and embrase a person who is living in sin…be it sex out of wedlock thiefing killing or hosexuality……sin is sin is sin….we are not to abuse verbally physically or in the media. Just shut up if you’re trying to be liberal and so WITH IT…because you’re being intolerant…go look it up. Make me sick.

  7. Anon1
    March 27, 2017 at 7:48 am

    Julie, not sure if you aware but St Lucia and the rest of the Caribbean are 98% Christian.

    The Christian Faith follows the Bible and in the Bible it says homosexuality is wrong wrong did I say wrong!

    1. Skye
      March 27, 2017 at 8:26 am

      It says many things are wrong like adultery, lying, stealing, eating pork, etc yet people do them all time but most “Christians” tend to focus on and condemn the gays, why is this so? I am a Christian and I believe God loves everyone. Everyone is a sinner and only God can judge because he judges the heart. So while you hate and condemn God’s children when he tells us, “vengeance is mine”, when he command that we all love one another and not to judge each other, you are committing many sins and will be judged maybe more harshly than who you are condemning.

      1. Anonymous
        March 27, 2017 at 9:37 am

        Well I’m not a Christian and I can tell you homosexuality adds nothing to humanity. Humans have survived by reproducing. Can two gays do that? Homosexual men are at increased risk for contract STIs. Any wonder why? Sure people can do whatever they want. But let’s not pretend that homosexuality is adding anything to existence.

      2. Anonymous
        March 27, 2017 at 2:36 pm

        SURE RIGHT!!

      3. alieninthecaribbean
        March 28, 2017 at 3:04 pm

        Human are not bacteria or viruses. Reproducing is not a mandate for every human being. Homosexuals have always been around and they have not prevented human reproduction from exploding to 7 BILLION and rapidly growing as we run out of natural resources and our planet chokes our waste. Heterosexuals are breeding so much, they can afford to throw away millions of children like surplus tomatoes. St. Lucia already has many cases of women with children they cannot feed or house and the men are nowhere to be found, leaving the State to have to take care of the burden.

        People add to our existence. Their creativity, intellect, charity, productivity in the use of their skills add to our existence and empathy to serve others add to our existence. Homosexuals are just as capable as heterosexuals in making positive contributions to society. Respecting the human rights of all and treating all as we would like to be treated makes people happier, healthier and better able to thrive. Those spreading animosity and encouraging ill-treatment of a group of people are the ones who are not adding to our existence.

      4. Skye
        April 1, 2017 at 5:54 pm

        So ridiculous! Look at this world and you only see homosexuality as not adding to humanity. And check your statistics, more straight people have STDs than the gays,

      5. Anon1
        March 29, 2017 at 10:06 am

        Skye –

        If you can point out what in my comment led you to believe I hate… “So while you hate and condemn God’s children when he tells us, “vengeance is mine”

        Not a word in my comments eluded to me hating or condemning.

        Check yourself, read and understanding before making a comment like that.

        God bless you.

    2. Skye
      April 1, 2017 at 5:49 pm

      Anon1 Subtle hate is still hate. I was referring to when you said Christians follow the bible and what the bible say is wrong. I pointed out that the bible speaks of many sins yet Christians seem to pick and choose what’s convenient. So much adultery and broken families yet I don’t see post about that and I don’t see public condemnation about that. The bible says we should not eat pork, where is the public out cry about that? Sex before marriage is commonplace yet I see nothing about that. Judgmental Hypocrites you are. And the bible says that we are not to judge each other, that judgement and vengeance belongs to the most high not to us. The #1 commandment is that we love one another. Why not preach love instead of hate?

  8. Lise
    March 27, 2017 at 8:02 am

    Animals have their partner to mate with mankind booling, women rub on each other with dodo. What a calamity!!! Fire ! Pan frm babby man . Even the church which was instituted by God you All people attacking ? This nonsense hav gone too far in lucia.

  9. life matters
    March 27, 2017 at 8:23 am

    God gave life i support life who the are you people to judge go clean y’ll back yard and closet’s y’ll to cast stone y’ll will be the first to go to hell ! you all playing saints. that’s GOD job to judge. 100% striat!

    1. Anonymous
      March 27, 2017 at 9:30 pm

      So why God made Solomon judge????

  10. Skye
    March 27, 2017 at 8:29 am

    It says many things are wrong like adultery, lying, stealing, eating pork, etc yet people do them all time but most “Christians” tend to focus on and condemn the gays, why is this so? I am a Christian and I believe God loves everyone. Everyone is a sinner and only God can judge because he judges the heart. So while you hate and condemn God’s children when he tells us, “vengeance is mine”, when he command that we all love one another and not to judge each other, you are committing many sins and will be judged maybe more harshly than who you are condemning.

  11. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 8:34 am

    When God had created, he created male and female ,not male and male either female and female.It was Adam and Eve

  12. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 8:35 am

    Ignorant..I’m getting married on Friday to my girl friend of 4 years and not even Trump can’t stop it I’m happy and @@@@ youall if youall who have a problem because I didn’t.

    1. Anonymous
      March 27, 2017 at 9:05 am

      U and u alone will be there to answer when judgment day comes.

      1. Skye
        April 1, 2017 at 5:52 pm

        I would love ro see what’s in your closet. You may be surprised will pass judgement day. The Most High judges the heart.

  13. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 8:45 am

    Trust me there will be no sinners in heaven boy God will will never alow to gay in in his kingdom man holding man man kissing man man making love to man what a shame disgusting st lucian stay clost to your children them gay people sick dont alliw them to take over they so suckGod will deal with them uf they dont change their life

  14. Jean Claude Didier
    March 27, 2017 at 8:46 am

    What is human rights?

    Is it the right to do what I want ,when I want ?
    Is it the right to my feelings?

    What about morality?
    What’s about divine order ,isn’t it clear that the creator made them male and female, doesn’t the law of reproduction confirm that.

    I don’t advocate violence against anyone, or group, we are called to love but let’s be careful with the choices we make .

    To all LGBT people God created you in his image and likeness, male and female ,nature reflects that,the animals reflect that, manufacturers reflect that ,nuts and bolts reflects that,plumbing fittings reflects that and the list goes on .
    You are in breach of divine order ,your real human rights comes from divine order, so let’s get it right

  15. Avaitay
    March 27, 2017 at 9:00 am

    “Religious leaders within the Caribbean region have recognized the fact that people are losing faith in their religious leaders,” Charles….They losing their faith so call them to join ur religion? I have no problem with u n wht u do with ur life…At the end of the day u will carry ur cross..but don’t come and talk them shate! Y’all feel everyone have to entertain yall…chpz!

  16. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 9:15 am

    Yes and I will stand in of god . But will you go to heaven???? See I was raised in a Christian home and I remember the bible says JUDE NOT .im still getting married to my girl friend of 4 years. You wanna come on the honeymoon we won’t have nut bolts but we

  17. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 9:17 am

    Yes and I will stand infront of god . But will you go to heaven???? See I was raised in a Christian home and I remember the bible says JUDE NOT .im still getting married to my girl friend of 4 years. You wanna come on the honeymoon we won’t have nuts and bolts but we will have lots of TOYS

  18. The One
    March 27, 2017 at 9:17 am

    Bro, and I address you as brother because it seems to me you and others like you have forgotten what genitals you carry. You people are trying to find all sorts of way to condone an act that is directly condemned biblically. The almighty GOD destroyed two cities for this very act and that alone should tell you how much god hates this act. So no matter what you say and how much you try to make people feel bad for not condoning it, it is wrng.

  19. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 9:25 am

    Worry about the murders in st Lucia all you religious IGNORANT Christian talking about judgement day OH PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK ALREADY. WHATTTTTT???????

  20. Yep
    March 27, 2017 at 9:32 am

    Young man…we can love our brethren but we cannot accept their practises as Christians. As any church organizational we have rules and standards. If people are leaving the SDA church it’s not because they have a solid relationship with Christ. ..it is that they want to go live their lives as they choose and the SDA Cgrch cannot be seen to accept this.
    What I will say is that if a girl is sleeping with her boyfriend and the church knows. The girl gets pregnant. They may well accept her coming to church still every sabbath with baby in arms…but why is it not the same for a man or woman who is same way come to church and is committing same sexual act? They are both not pleasing to God but treated as if one is a lesser sin to the other.
    We will not tolerate the abuse or persecution of anyone as a church…I would hope so anyway….NB…I speak for myself…not for the SDA Church in the Caribbean…. that we would still love and embrace anyone in a sinfulnrelationship….but be aware it us to bring them into a closer and forgiving relationship with the Lord….but not to let them think that it’s OK and to carry on as is.
    Oscar Wilde was the lucky one who on his death bed asked can you really say that you love that person … ( that you’re having sex with) when you know the true love of who God us? ♡♡♡♡

  21. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 9:43 am

    “You and others like you ” SEE WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT JUDGE NOT AND I WILL SEE YOU IN HEAVEN BROTHER. AND STOP SLEEPING WITH YOUR BEST FRIEND WIFE . BOOOOM. In your face

    1. Skye
      April 1, 2017 at 5:59 pm

      BOOOOM! LOL

  22. Lucianman101
    March 27, 2017 at 10:48 am

    We need to let the people live their lives, as long as they don’t bother you leave them alone. This was the same way white people used the bible to justify slavery of black people. Now we are using the bible to victimize gays and lesbians. If God will punish them at judgement day so be it but its not your right to judge them. Let them be, why don’t we treat perpetrators of others such as adultery with such disdain.

    1. Skye
      April 1, 2017 at 6:02 pm

      Lucianman101 Thank you. I know a man who is married and who hates gays and condemn them all the time. But he sleeps with young girls for years and was accused of molesting a couple of them but he’s welcome in the church and nobody say anything.

  23. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 11:25 am

    Well sad….. thank you. Thank you

  24. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 11:47 am

    To all those that does critisize you all goin to hell ! ur hell is condemning people judging others you pay for that befor you sufferation is you all hell the bible dont mean anything man rewrite the bible.

  25. Julie Fowles
    March 27, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    I’m clearly not stupid mate ,and there is nothing wrong with the way i. spell ,take a good look at yourself with your holier than and al rubbish you come out with

  26. Johnny Fartypants
    March 27, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    your dumb bible, christians, muslims etc. Grow up and get a life.(Word deleted)

  27. Gabriel Stoke
    March 27, 2017 at 3:18 pm

    When is the Caribbean going to bring itself into the 21st century? you guys tolerate kiddy fiddling Catholic priests, pastor child molesters/rapists of all ‘faiths’, a lot of you are closet bum boys, and yet you loose so much sleep over gay people.
    You would be perfect Trump supporters!
    Live and let live, the rest of the world is up to speed with LGBT opinions.
    Stop living in the Victorian age and look beyond your comic bible.

    1. Skye
      April 1, 2017 at 6:05 pm

      These judgmental people keep the gay bashing going to deflect their sins. But God sees everything and they may be the very ones going to hell.

  28. truth
    March 27, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    All sin is sin yeah but there are those that defile the body which is the temple of God. U polute the body u make room for demons to rest in, not the holy spirit. abomination brings a curse . hurt yourself. The church has their rights too same as u created rights for yourself. Christian rights from God, yours from man to accommodate your blasphemy

    1. Gabriel Stoke
      March 27, 2017 at 4:53 pm

      Temple of god? what the **** does that mean? You ‘christians’ are all brain dead.

      1. Anonymous
        March 28, 2017 at 10:41 am

        Word and TRUTH !

    2. Skye
      April 1, 2017 at 6:13 pm

      Truth, Adultery defiles the body, eating pork defiles the body, drugs and alcohol defiles the body so what’s your point?

  29. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    “TRUTH.” GO SIT DOWN SOME WHERE . AND SHUT UP

  30. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 7:25 pm

    Keep waiting [email protected]@@H we ain’t going back to the closest..we’re here to stay.. That’s something YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH LIKE IT OR NOT .

  31. Anonymous
    March 27, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    Keep waiting [email protected]@@H we ain’t going back to the damn closest..we’re here to stay.. That’s something YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH LIKE IT OR NOT . So you might as well join in there’s space for you

  32. Anonymous
    March 28, 2017 at 1:14 am

    I will say my part on this issue God judges every action of sin it doesn’t matter if it’s homosexuality, adultery eating pork or whatever the sin maybe…God categorically says that men shall not sleep with men neither woman shall not sleep with another woman..animals doesn’t know what sin is and animal knows when it has done wrong so as every man when we have sinned..yes God loves everybody yet God won’t tolerate the act of homosexuality let get right…the bible tells us that jesus gave us the warning like it was in the days of men so shall it be in the days of sodom and gomora when men will be lovers of themselves sleeping with each other doing vile things with like y’all gay people know it is wrong to sleep with y’all two men having sex God don’t like that straight…anyone arguing what God would permit is lying yo themselves God hates homosexuality if God had to on earth like us he would a woman…have nice day…God says homosexuality is wrong it’s wrong…

  33. Anonymous
    March 28, 2017 at 9:03 am

    Wow you know so much about the bible. But you don’t see the part that says JUDGE NOT. tell the murders and the rapist about the bible..Sit your @[email protected] DOWN SOME WHERE

  34. Anonymous
    March 28, 2017 at 11:55 am

    It,s wrong if we are a people who believe in god, remember he said in his words, levit_ CH_20:13 said if a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of then have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; theur blood shall be upon them.that explain it all there no dought about it,he said his words will never change, think about that.

  35. alieninthecaribbean
    March 28, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    Religious folk are a joke and clearly hypocrites. Usury and money changing are gross sins in the bible and condemned far more than the male temple prostitution, gang rape and pagan sex rites you cherry pick out of historical and linguistic context and misappropriate to homosexual people today. Several bible verses condemn usury (charging interest on money) and money changing for profit was the ONLY thing that sent Christ into a blind rage and actually made him whip people.

    Yet how many of you have bank accounts, engage in investment and work in or profit from the banking system which is built on usury and money changing?

    Getting divorced and remarried is adultery. Christians do it all the time and do not expect to be punished by the Government, denied employment or ill-treated. Christ said nothing about gay people but he did say not to use violence against enemies and cautioned against taking up the sword. Yet Christians join the military and armed forces and kill enemies when Christ said turn the other cheek. Christians can be obese due to gluttony and sloth and never expect any denial of the human rights.

    Yet they have the gall to take up a book they do not live by and use it deny others their human rights. Keep on doing that. You are bringing down your own religion. The younger generations are taking note of your hypocrisy and rejecting it.

    1. Skye
      April 1, 2017 at 6:17 pm

      alieninthecaribbean – Truth, they are all hypocrites.

  36. Anonymous
    March 28, 2017 at 7:01 pm

    AMEN

  37. real
    March 28, 2017 at 11:01 pm

    Judge not least he be judged. He who is without sin cast the first stone.

  38. Burnsatan
    April 1, 2017 at 5:44 pm

    I wudnt be botherd with the gays,we all have our life to leave.wats we shud be worried about is those rapist coming after our children,the murderes who are amongst us.gay is not right but who am i to judge anyone i have my faults also,wat is sad is they allowed to be married,isn’t anyone aware of the impact this may have on our youths

  39. LUCIANBOY
    April 1, 2017 at 7:18 pm

    SAD TO SEE THE HYPOCRISY AMONG ST LUCIANS THEY BUY THE DESIGNER BRANDS ALL MADE BY GAY PEOPLE THEY GO OUT TO FOREIGN COUNTRIES STILL WORK FOR THE SAME SO CALL GAY PEOPLE.THERE IS ARISING CRIME EPIDENIC,UNEMPLOYMENT SENTING THE KIDS ASTRAY WE TURN ARIUND AND LAMBAST AND CALL OURSELVES CHRISTIAN ITS SICKENING SAD THAT IT HURTS TO SEE A SATANIC SECT OF PEOPLE CAN BE SO EVIL IN WORDS AND THEN CALL ON GOD..WHERE IS HUMBLENESS, FORGIVNESS,LOVE.ST LUCIA HAS GONE DOWN THE DRAIN CONDEMNATION IS UP TO GOD ST LUCIA HAS AHIGH PERCENTAGE OF BISEXUALS IN THE CLOSET DO YOUR RESEARCH THE SAME ONES WHO WILL PRETEND WHY THEY HIDE BECAUSE OF SOCIETY CROM.THE GHETTO TO BLUE COLLAR LOOK AROUND ITS RIGHT UNDER YOUR EYES THE SAME ONES WHINING ON A WOMAN YET HE IS CRAVING TO LIVE HIS LIFE HE HAS TO LIVE A LIE FOR WHO# SOCIETY ..WHO WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE WE HAVE SET OF HYPOCRISY IN THIS ISLAND THATS ITS DOWN FALL A SET IF SAD DERANGED EVIL DEMONS IN THIS ISLAND,THEY ALLOW FOREIGNERS TO EXPLOIT THEM SELL THEIR SOULS FOR A DOLLAR YET WE POINT FINGERS AND CONDEMN..A SET OF PEOPLE WHO ALL CALL ON GOD YET THEY AT THE GARDERE THE WITCH DOCTOR THE MOMENT SOMETHING IS WRONG..SAD ITS TRUE..YOU BLASPEHMERS SECT OF SATAN YOU ALL NOT FAR FROM.THE ROOT OF HELL BURN

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