UWI lecturer against rise of businessmen-politicians in Caribbean

UWI lecturer against rise of businessmen-politicians in Caribbean

University of the West Indies (UWI) lecturer Doctor Tennyson Joseph has warned against the rise of the businessman-politician in the Caribbean.

According to media reports, Joseph cited Prime Minister Allen Chastanet and US President Donald Trump as examples of why businessmen as politicians are bad for society.

He expressed the view that elections in both Saint Lucia and United States were fought on the basis of an electorate frustrated with established politics.

The Head of the Department of Government, Sociology and Social Work at the UWI Cave Hill Campus in Barbados said the electorate opted to vote for something ‘new’.

He was delivering a public lecture on the topic “’Any Cook Can Govern?’:Plato, Donald Trump, and the rise of Caribbean Businessmen Politicians’.

Joseph, who unsuccessfully contested the 2006 general election in St Lucia against the United Workers Party (UWP), rejected 20th century Trinidadian intellectual CLR James’ theory that any ordinary person can become a leader.

The UWI lecturer argued instead in support of Greek philosopher Plato’s view that business people should not be political leaders.

Joseph said he was moved to think about the specific questions that he addressed in the lecture when in April 2016, “an untried and untested son of a Saint Lucian businessman, Allen Chastanet, emerged as Prime Minister of Saint Lucia after successfully wresting power from Dr Kenny Anthony”.

Joseph worked as political attaché to Anthony between 2000 and 2003.

According to CMC, Joseph sought to present Chastanet as an incompetent leader and showed a news clipping of the prime minister experiencing great difficulties piloting a bill through the nation’s national assembly.

 

 

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  1. UWI lecturer against rise of businessmen-politicians in Caribbean – Caribbean Edition
    August 13, 2017 at 11:16 am Reply

    […] Source: St. Lucia Times University of the West Indies (UWI) lecturer Doctor Tennyson Joseph has warned against the rise of the businessman-politician in the Caribbean. According to media reports, Joseph cited Prime Minister Allen Chastanet and US President Donald Trump as examples of why businessmen as politicians are bad for society. He expressed the… Link: UWI lecturer against rise of businessmen-politicians in Caribbean […]

    1. Boysie Dent
      August 13, 2017 at 7:39 pm Reply

      University lecturers are NOT suitable persons to advise as to who can and who cannot be leaders – This chap is a failure – that is why he tried politics and he failed –

      He has criticized – but presented no alternatives – the man is a wanna be – he should not be given a mega-phone just because he is a lecturer from UWI – that institution is only in the business for the money – and a (phd) from UWI is not worth the cost of a postage stamp…UWI is connected to United Nations – United Nations gives money to universities to engage research fellows – to write articles about the effects of climate change – climate change is a fraud – got the Internet and check out for yourself –

  2. R
    August 13, 2017 at 11:37 am Reply

    It has been over one year and he still hasn’t gotten that loss. Sore loser!

    1. Anonymous
      August 14, 2017 at 3:16 pm Reply

      What makes him a loser. From where he is from and where he is he seems quite accomplished. What is your definition of a loser? Is it someone you disagree with?

  3. Anonymous
    August 13, 2017 at 12:45 pm Reply

    Joseph’s opinion is obvious tainted by rejection, animus, covetousness and insecurity. We want people of all spheres of life to be part of the government. What we don’t want are dishonest, corrupt and inept people. Joseph , by expressing these views, deems to be intellectually dishonest. The voters were right to reject this political misfit. I carry no water for Chastanet for the electorate would deal with him if things don’t turn around.

    Vibz

  4. 5.20.100
    August 13, 2017 at 6:46 pm Reply

    Dr. Joseph, is it better to be the following: Surveyor? Lawyer? Farmer? Soldier? School Teacher? Engineer/Investor? Actor & broadcaster? Journalist? (Just to name a few jobs held by U.S. Presidents).
    In my opinion, a President/Prime Minister is someone that is elected because what he or she promises, pleases the people at the time the most or they didn’t like the previous person that was in office and want a change.
    I will pose the question, “Does Law School prepare you to become Prime Minister, President or Minister for Finance?”
    A good leader doesn’t know everything but is able to surround himself/herself with the right people to get the job done.
    Ultimately, the people want what they were promised.

    1. Boysie Dent
      August 13, 2017 at 9:40 pm Reply

      Much thanks to America – Education has been FINANCIALIZED – this means that when you leave university – you will be $ 100000 in debt and no suitable jobs to be found

      So in point and in fact – the student becomes automatically divorced from reality – they are forced to only think of “How to Repay The Loan” – they become just a slightly more educated parasite – and all their conciousness – only include themselves…

      So touting a UWI lecturer is only relevant in the smallest room in your house – When one considers Jamaica – the needs of the people and the needs of the country – UWI has NOT produced anyone / MALE / FEMALE / of leadership ABILITY OR quality for over 50+ years —

      This chap is a clear example – the type of mindlessness that comes out of UWI instead of suggesting solutions – he jumps onto the nearest available bandwagon – and spouts his stuff

  5. Anonymous
    August 13, 2017 at 9:14 pm Reply

    It is because of idiots like this guy universities produce an abundance of educated jackasses,people who can’t think and believe that only a chosen few should lead or govern a country. Thank God that decision is left to we the masses. This is why we rejected the likes of himself and Kenny Anthony and chose the Businessman.

  6. Anonymous
    August 13, 2017 at 11:52 pm Reply

    What he is saying is that with business interests there can be some potential conflict of interest. I think he has a point but off course character is everything.

    1. Anonymous
      August 14, 2017 at 9:02 am Reply

      Very well put. Character is everything!!!

  7. EER
    August 14, 2017 at 7:45 am Reply

    Dr. Joseph may be right. Look at the recent successful businessmen who became political leaders in England and USA. I think that he should have said that persons with economic power who become Political leaders of countries are not very successful. And here we have many examples in the Caribbean including Jamaica and Dominica.

  8. keepingitreal
    August 14, 2017 at 8:06 am Reply

    Please do not report anything from this prime jackass. It makes him feel important

    1. Anonymous
      August 14, 2017 at 3:20 pm Reply

      When we rort to name calling it simply means we accept defeat. You have every right to disagree with him, but please let me hear your counter argument and not your ability to call peope names.

  9. Anonymous
    August 14, 2017 at 9:13 am Reply

    Businessmen look at everything from the standpoint of profit for themself. If you didnt you would not be a successful businessman! In that statement however lies a an obvious conflict of interest. It would take a business man of great character to rise above that impediment.

  10. Clare
    August 14, 2017 at 11:39 am Reply

    The way Lawyers and Dr.’s have been running business in the Caribbean leaves Countries Brokes and their pockets overflowing. Only a business Man would get six million dollars from another country and pay it towards interest on a country loans, because he knows loans have to be paid. Only a business man would realize it makes no sense to run a company at a loss.
    Dr. Tennyson why beat around the bush? I think you wanted to say no business man should be given a top position at a university. lollol.

  11. Anonymous
    August 14, 2017 at 12:01 pm Reply

    I have always been convinced that a degree does not make you an intelligent person. Tennyson is a typical example. Allen Chastanet is not just a businessman. He is an economist. He is not an opportunist, he is a caring individual. He is not in it for the money or prestige.

    1. Anonymous
      August 15, 2017 at 8:39 am Reply

      LMAO, Allen not a businessman ? his last job before becoming prime minister was running Coco Palm resorts. Which now seems to be getting alot of business from the government which alot of their training sessions being held there.

      1. Boysie Dent
        August 15, 2017 at 9:00 am Reply

        Yes – He is a Business Man – that is (1) one reason that his hotel is now doing very good business The (2) second reason is that (He) Knows full well that most Blacks / Negroes (Believe in God) – (3) Third reason – They also firmly believe that God will solve all their problems – so the never have to THINK/ or / put HANDS AND BRAIN together so solve their problems because God is Coming – he is Just Around The Corner,,,The problem is that (it might well be true that God is just around the corner – but when he arrives – all the people who believe such (stories) will be DEAD – so keep praying – brothers and sisters – Don’t do anything else – Just Keep Praying…

        1. Anonymous
          August 15, 2017 at 10:53 am Reply

          They uncomfortable truth.

        2. Anonymous
          August 15, 2017 at 12:04 pm Reply

          You must re read Matthew 24:14; then Psalm 37;9,10,11; this one is for the ridiculers 2 Peter 2: 2, 3. I only want to share “Good News” with you my friend. I wish you well. 😀

          1. Boysie Dent
            August 15, 2017 at 1:58 pm

            DENZ, If it was ever certified that you had a brain – you would at the same time be certified as extremely dangerous…

    2. Nathan
      August 15, 2017 at 10:57 am Reply

      HAHAHA. Funniest comment of the day. “Allen is not just a businessman he is an economist.” Allen Chastanet is the most retarded politician of all time. He has zero qualifications. He failed at school. Economist? Yeah right. The only reason this moron got work is because of his daddy. He’s absolutely useless.

      1. Boysie Dent
        August 15, 2017 at 1:56 pm Reply

        OK< I see, there are a few among you – who seem to think that God is NOT a Solution Provider – and who has correctly stated that the man in question is a failed charlatan and can only use a straw to drink his coconut water – because daddy paid someone to hold the straw and paid someone else to hold the coconut –

        But, look here – listen – Because the chap is USELESS – that does not make him a bead person – That part comes later – after he has been the job for six months…

  12. Anonymous
    August 14, 2017 at 1:08 pm Reply

    Hahaha..did you take a fall on your head

  13. Jacques Boucle
    August 14, 2017 at 9:03 pm Reply

    Dr. Joseph has made a scholarly judgement not an ad hominem attack yet no one is addressing the topic. Don’t we have the intellectual fortitude to debate the issue raised by Dr. Joseph? All I am reading from the opposition is rhetorical belligerence.

    Dr. Joseph, I know you may have considered the different epoch in which Plato and James lived, but please be mindful that Plato disliked the Sophist those we would call today bluffers and lawyers. Plato was seeking the truth and not recognition. He would not have been elected to any office in today’s politics. He knew that business people would be motivated by their narrow self-interest and should be removed from the corridors of political power. Plato was aware of human foibles and as a result conflict-of-interest.

    On the contrary, CLR James, a Marxist and historian, knew that we have degenerated into a decadent society where all things are possible. James knew of the contradictions in modern society and concluded that anyone can become an elected leader. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy; they are deliberate exercises in double-talk. For example, Allen Chastanet was able to enthrall the voters by promising simply “five to stay alive” – but offering only draconian measures and victimization. How many people were able to see through the facade of deceptions?

    Ideally, Plato may be correct but we do not live in an ideal world. We live in a Jamesian world where men are motivated by self-interest, which is a law of nature. There is no objective good. Good is what is good for me. Humankind is ultimately selfish and cruel and will do anything to gain power.

    Great topic Dr. Joseph.

  14. Denzz
    August 15, 2017 at 1:10 am Reply

    My tired dear friends, hang in there. There is “Good News” A real promised change is coming; please be patient. I will take a guess that many of you do own a copy of a Bible in your homes. “That’s the source of the Good News.” It is our manual to life, telling us about the only government that we have not experienced before. Remember the opening 2 requests at Matthew 6:9

    The Kingdom of God is a heavenly government. It will replace all other governments and will cause God’s will to be done in heaven and on earth. The news about God’s Kingdom is good. Soon God’s Kingdom will satisfy man’s need for good government. It will unite everyone living on earth.—Read Daniel 2:44; Matthew 6:9, 10; 24:14.

    1. Boysie Dent
      August 15, 2017 at 8:45 am Reply

      It is extremely painful to read such comments

      Questions:

      1) – What are Religious Principles

      2) – What is Humanity

      3) – Do You Have A Brain

      4) – Why do you think that GOD is Solution Provider

      1. Anonymous
        August 15, 2017 at 12:28 pm Reply

        He is our Grand creator, He cares about us, He loves us, and He is the greatest promise keeper. He never lies. He continues to instruct us.

        Now I have a few Qs’ for you. Do you like “Good News?” Was the “Good News” I tried to share with you offensive to you?

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