Hermangild Francis Urges Revamp Of RSLPF

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Former National Security Minister Hermangild Francis says there’s a need to revamp the Royal Saint Lucia Police Force (RSLPF) and has taken issue with the way promotions occur.

“The police force needs to be revamped. That is why I wanted to do the succession plan for the police,” the former Deputy Police Commissioner declared Wednesday night during the DBS Television programme Newsmaker Live.

Francis, who served in the United Workers Party (UWP) administration that lost the last general elections, explained that police officers have promotion issues.

He told the programme that some people assert that young officers getting promotions ‘are UWP’.

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However, the former National Security Minister, who was also responsible for Home Affairs and Justice, said that’s not true, and the Public Service Commission is making the promotions.

“What young officers are doing now – everybody is going and get a degree and as soon as you get a degree you’re bypassing. So imagine there are Inspectors in the police force who can’t get promoted to Assistant Superintendent because they don’t have a degree and the fellows have all the experience, all the training. They have taught the Sergeants,” Francis observed.

“Right now there are four Sergeants who have been promoted to Assistant Superintendents, jumping their supervisors who had trained them for all those years. Do you think that these Inspectors will support these new ASPs? That’s where the problem is in the police force,” he declared.

According to the former Minister, experience and training should be considerations in determining promotions.

But he told Newsmaker Live that’s not what is happening.

“As long as you have the academics now, people are promoted,” Francis expressed.

 

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16 COMMENTS

  1. Experience is a good thing – however education is very important-and I do believe that most jobs require a degree. You need to learn how to interact professional and be able to give an answer at a moment’s notice when interviewed.

    I can state quite a number of instances – here is an example several years ago when a carnival contestant was asked what her favorite dish was and she said PYREX (pretty but dumb). I have been embarrassed a few times when a St. Lucian contestant representing St. Lucia at the Caribbean contest literally did not know how to respond to a basic question. In the meantime, these folk have chaperones who are supposed to assist – some of the chaperones need serious help or credentials in order to be qualified to function as a chaperone.

  2. I don’t think the degree should be a problem cause we need educated people at the top the police force is not functioning at all the management not doing a good job and lack ideas me as an x military person my uncle was a top cop when he died the last government did a bad thing appointing the commissioner we have at this time I think the training where it starts for police officers should be looked Into cause it not working I think yes experience is a good thing but everything now is paperwork and the press I see us giving a press conference on TV and shak my head in 2022 we still the same way I think firstly the head of police for vf should be replaced he or she was too comfortable not doing much get an acting officer in if him or her is not good replaced till we have the right person for the job so long these things happening in vf it is not some one else coming out of VF doing these things we can’t find a place where we can put surveillance in place to try to monitor the problem and get these guys arrested we have so many police we send overseas on training to do what to go Barbados for 2 to 3 years to work when we need them in the country

  3. I don’t think the degree should be a problem cause we need educated people at the top the police force is not functioning at all the management not doing a good job and lack ideas me as an x military person my uncle was a top cop when he died the last government did a bad thing appointing the commissioner we have at this time I think the training where it starts for police officers should be looked Into cause it not working I think yes experience is a good thing but everything now is paperwork and the press I see us giving a press conference on TV and shak my head in 2022 we still the same way I think firstly the head of police for vf should be replaced he or she was too comfortable not doing much get an acting officer in if he is not good replaced till we have the right person for so long these things happening in vf is not some one else coming out to do it we can find where to put surveillance in the are to monitor the are so many police we send overseas on training to do what to go Barbados for 2 to 3 years to work when we need them in the country

  4. I agree with mr Francis. Promotion in st Lucia is based on who you know and getting a degree sometimes people don’t even work for. Some of the people getting degrees online don’t even do their own assignments. Other people do their work for them and they end up with a degree and be promoted. Some of us work hard make sacrifices to get our qualifications and we are being bypassed sometimes for those who does nothing. Bosses promote others simply because they are their friends while those of us who goes out of our wAy do a fair days work with over 20 years in the experience cannot be promoted. In my opinion public service and the public service commission should not allow such. Probe to see the persons work ethic. Years of experience and qualifications. They give you training at public service and don’t even take it into consideration. It’s high time these things changes. Police officers that have experience doing a good job put their lives on the line will be call for interview will do a good job at the interviews but the job will be passed on to someone that has no idea what they are suppose to do. There are to many favoritisms in the police force and in the public service in st. Lucia. Some promotions are done so quickly while others takes months. I have been a victim of such and now I only believe in the most high to do things at his time and paste. One day we all will give an account of ourselves and our work to god. The unfairness, biasness, favoritism and hatred will come to an end. Peace and love

  5. It was a matter of time before it came to the news front. All those Degree/PHD wielding idiot officers know nothing about proper policing because they didn’t go through the ranks properly or accurately. The ones who are/were meant to be promoted with all the knowledge are still Constables or Cpls.

    It’s not just about having a Degree or PHD. How many of these clowns carry a Degree/PHD in Policing?

    No matter what is said, politics is involved in everything in Saint Lucia which is a F**KING shame!!

    The RSLPF is doomed to fail!

  6. Well, well, well, what have we here ; another disgraced stalwart of The United Worthless Party. The Prodigal Son of The United Worthless Party has spoken; is there a Coolie behind you that’s about take the mic OJ ?? We are surprise you are commenting on the dysfunctionality of The RSPLF, when you had five torturous years (The Reign of Terror) to make a difference AND YOU DID NOTHING. The Most Honorable KDA had to call you out for who were,and who you are today A FAILURE, another one for the story books. Heck ! At one point St Lucian’s had not idea we were without a Minister of National Security, given the fact that you were off the island laying up in New York for weeks, there, there, there. In Retrospect, to the promotion of officers, I do agree with you on that (jeezas slap me I can’t believe I just wrote that); an officer promotionally should simply based on his/her ability to do their job, dedication, corrupt free, and heroism. This will surely put a damper on up-tempo and moral within the force. The Public Service Commission is what really needs to be disbanded and revamp.

  7. Why So many persons With all these Qualifications that have Nothing to with Policing Being Promoted all the Time

  8. Was the succession be the wife then marry the wife’s niece , the niece cousin and the cousin sister?
    Clear this Mr Francis

  9. You can Imagine there So many Qualified Pice officers with The following Doctors Degree. Etc.Most of these Qualifications have Nothing to do with Policing

  10. Too little too late is what I will say to this FORMER minister. We the public were excited when this gentleman was made minister of National Security because we had heard sooo much about his abilities as a former police officer, but you all know the story- he turned out to be a great great great disappointment and worst than La Corbinere. So sad. He turned out to be clueless as a minister, looked out for only those officers who stooped to him, supported his party and determined who the public service promoted. And we say that the PSC is independent? Only on paper.

    Every time I hear the word succession plan by Mr Francis, it reminds me of one of his other failures. A very well respected senior officer once explained to me this nonsense of succession planning Mr. Francis so often alludes to. This officer explained and I share his view that the police hierarchy cannot prepare a succession plan when they have no clue as to which party supporter would be promoted next and which Sergeants the PSC would choose over all Inspectors and Assistant Superintendents to make the next Superintendent. Tell me, with this trend how can the police Hierarchy ever prepare a successful succession plan? As explained by that senior officer, the preparation of any succession plan would have been the job of the Minister and the PSC since they and they only, would know which supporter would be promoted next. I know that they would try to tell you how independent the PSC is and how the minister has no hand in promotions, but if you believe one bit of this crap, you know nothing about St. Lucia or has lost touch with reality. By the way, I heard that a list was found in the desk of a minister from the last administration with names of police officers to be promoted. Now tell me is that fair, is that transparent. Food for thought.

    I agree though, that the promotion of qualified but inexperienced officers have greatly diminished the performance of this organization. I recall the days of Harding, Phillips, Noel and others, the performance of the organization was far better than what it is now with all its qualified but incompetent core of officers. What these men had was experience and they were also qualified in the handling of police related matters. What is clearly needed at the top, especially NOW is competence! And as long as this is not the number one criterion, as long as the PSC blindly promotes and focuses only on qualifications (academic qualifications) then this organization is doomed to fail, crime will continue to increase at an increasing rate and this country will be fast tracked to the list of failing states. Too bad the minister didn’t make good use of his tenure to make this organization great again.

  11. Too much focus on qualifications and not enough on being able to do the job. We have a bunch of book smart people running things. But that is all they are just book smart. Must be a balance.

  12. and those that have the degree cant do bomzek in the work and those that have alllll the work experience that have to do the work for them while they sit in their nice air conditioned office. same way it is in the business places. You will be working in a place for donkey years and you know the ins and outs of the business what to do and what not, then a position is open and they take someone that has no experience compared to what you have and know just because they go to all highest schools and they getting more money than you while they do less work

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