Norbert Highlights Need To Address Backlog Of Applications For Firearms

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Micoud North MP and former police officer Jeremiah Norbert believes there’s need to address a backlog of applications for licensed firearms while expressing the view that it was one of the reasons behind the proposed new five-member Firearms Licensing Board.

“I think one of the reasons why the board was implemented or we are suggesting the board is there’s a serious backlog of firearm applications. Several persons said they have applied five, six, seven years and they have not even received a phone call or an interview,” Norbert told reporters on Monday.

He said what was unfair.

“At least you should have an interview. If you don’t qualify you should be notified,” he asserted.

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“I think that the whole idea and having a board and having the board sit on a quarterly basis would take away the problem of the long wait of persons who apply,” the MP stated.

And he told reporters that whether someone qualifies or not, they should get a notification within a reasonable time.

Asked whether given the current crime surge he expects an increase in firearm applications, Norbert pointed to a spike.

“I think we have seen quite a few more applications coming through because I mean the current climate is one where persons are fearful for their lives and they are making applications for firearms. It is putting a little strain on the police because I mean there’s vetting – it’s a process,” he stated.

He told reporters that not everyone would be issued a licensed firearm.
“We are also being very careful because we have had instances where persons who have been issued licensed firearms there have been reports where they used their firearms or they use the license to obtain ammunition to give persons who are not licensed,” Norbert disclosed.
He said he understood the need for the proposed Firearms Licencing Board.

Nevertheless, the Micoud North MP told reporters that some police officers are concerned that the discretion would not rest solely with the Commissioner of Police.

However, he noted that since the board is not yet in place, there’s still time for dialogue with the police.

“As much as we said the Commissioner of Police should be the Chairman of that board, the board has not been implemented and the police have an opportunity to have discourse with us so that some of the issues that they have and the concerns they have can be mitigated moving forward and we can ensure that whatever we do in terms of the board is best suited not only for the police, but the public,” he noted.

 

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15 COMMENTS

  1. No one should get a firearm simply because of the high crime rate. If so, all citizens should be armed. We are all in this together and all hands should be on deck to reduce crime in this country. Just look at the alarming rate of gun crimes in the US. People just walking into malls and shooting innocent shoppers just because they are having a bad day. Persons on this island should only be issued guns by the police commissioner because of the nature of their work or to protect their businesses. That will explain why some persons were never called for an interview. If you are looking to employ someone with a Bachelor’s degree, would you call persons without that degree for an interview even if they apply?

  2. Well said. Persons on the board will always do favors for friends or a friend of a friend who isn’t fit to have a firearm. In fact those with licensed firearms should be investigate every year. I have witnessed some trigger happy ones reaching for their firearms during verbal altercations.

  3. Well said @What a mess. I was thinking the same thing. And the board will most likely comprise of people who is a friend or a friend of a friend of somebody who shouldn’t get a firearm, but will pull some strings to put one in their hand. Let the police commissioner do his job. In fact, the commissioner should request periodic reports or from time to time investigate those persons who already have licensed firearms. I have a big question mark by some of them. About a year ago, one of them who is a taxi driver got into an argument with a man on William Peter Boulevard. Just a heated exchange of words. I actually saw him go into his van, retrieve a firearm and put it in his pocket. The bulge was quite visible to everyone. Relatives of the man standing by quickly put him in a car and drove away. While they were driving off, the man who went to get the gun said they did not give him what he had in his pocket to kill birds. Hinting that it was licensed. So you see….

  4. SLP – Saint Leaderless Party. Why tinker with the firearm’s application process. You talk about the police being inundated with work and the length of time it takes someone to get a response for an application. But under the proposed new system, wouldn’t the police still have to investigate? And isn’t that the same with mostly all government departments? So then what crap are you talking about. What you don’t want to admit is the fact that some of you think that your cabal are complaining that their applications are being turned down? And the police Commissioner has too much power in that regard. So now you want to inject politics into the process. But time will tell, as always.

    The arming of a nation is not the response to an upsurge violence. That may just lead to more violence. Think of it – if a criminal wants to rob someone who is armed. That criminal will first shoot that person then rob him or her. You remember the GuardsMan officer shot at the gas station in Union a few year’s ago? Remember the police officer who was shot and killed recently? Additionally, many of those firearms will be taken from the holders, by the criminals. There are too many serious issues wanting to be addressed for this government to put this non issue at the top of their policy agenda. My party, the SlP has continues to shame me by the day with their dismal performance. The gibberish Norbert said there, sums it all.

  5. Trying to score some points, Mr Politician?

    This entire process is a joke just like the jokers who are involved.

    Is the committee going to prevent your application from being misplaced or lost? Even worst, not processed. SOME of the officers who carry out those due diligence are incompetent.

    What happens before or after your application is processed? What happens after you interview? I know people who have had their interview for over 3-5yrs now and nothing has come through, not even a letter nor a phone call.

    If you don’t carry a particular name or hold a status in society especially in Saint Lucia, then you are a nobody.

    The would-be criminals don’t have none of the above to worry about. No licencing process, no committee, no nothing.

    • So damn right. Incompetent people try to curry favour with the higher ups. The barely functioning systems is the cost of corruption.

  6. Norbert I am happy you mentioned it. Daring the last 5 years many uwps got license. There is a particular criminal who is a famous drug dealer from Odsan who got one. There is a 23 year old from Vf because his uncle has business he is on the verge of getting one. The decent citizen cannot get one

  7. As a former police officer I thought he would have known that the long wait was as a result of due diligence. Sometimes these nitwits just want to be noticed and come out making useless statements. He mentioned that some license holders buy ammunition for unlicensed holders. There you go, even with due diligence you cannot predict human behavior. So let the process take it course. Would the board throw away the process of ensuring that license firearms are only in the hands of worthy persons.

  8. Let the people arm themselves and Police make money off of The New Licencing permits, required firearm classes, courses, exams, practice hours , rental equipment ect. Let the women and vulnerable arm themselves and if they kill unlawfully it’s same as a criminal murder offense. The new regulated Purchases of guns, ammo equipment gear ect goes directly through a RSLP Force site…. Too much criminal activity goin on! Legalize and expedite Gun Rights,Priveleges to those other thanboujoua in St Lucia.

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